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:::FIne then, though I have to point out that you, Samuel, did edit quite a couple of articles BEFORE Ben made that template, making it confusing for others, especially considering how you haven't informed a lot of people on this strategy of yours. And a decision like that shouldn't be kept to a meer User Talk page, especially for something as huge as a hierarchycal template for the next generation of (fyi, your starting to abuse of this word) "executives." While I'm at it, INVOLVE THE CLUB (or, NON-EXECUTIVES) ONCE IN A WHILE. Seriously, your comments on how Spacesim "isn't a direct democracy" is quite derisory. To all members. There, I'm pissed. Anyone for a verbal argument at lunch? [[User:Cslatlantis|---<font color="red">Wernstrum</font>, <font color="#0099CC">Stargakat</font>, <font color="green">Jonas</font>]] 11:13, 19 April 2010 (EDT) | :::FIne then, though I have to point out that you, Samuel, did edit quite a couple of articles BEFORE Ben made that template, making it confusing for others, especially considering how you haven't informed a lot of people on this strategy of yours. And a decision like that shouldn't be kept to a meer User Talk page, especially for something as huge as a hierarchycal template for the next generation of (fyi, your starting to abuse of this word) "executives." While I'm at it, INVOLVE THE CLUB (or, NON-EXECUTIVES) ONCE IN A WHILE. Seriously, your comments on how Spacesim "isn't a direct democracy" is quite derisory. To all members. There, I'm pissed. Anyone for a verbal argument at lunch? [[User:Cslatlantis|---<font color="red">Wernstrum</font>, <font color="#0099CC">Stargakat</font>, <font color="green">Jonas</font>]] 11:13, 19 April 2010 (EDT) | ||
::::I do not understand what is making you angry. I moved pages to clarify a hierarchy that we, as amember, had voted in. Then Ben, who reasonably thought that this was confusing, undid my moves. I will later create pages for External Affairs Subcommander and Tech Director when we, THE CLUB, have decided what they should be called. I called a vote, I am waiting for more club approval and inoput regarding roles and ranks, what more do you want me to do? And how am I abuse of the word executive? I haven't even used that word in this conversation. if you have a constructive comment that will aide us in what we're doing, please provide it. Otherwise, you are not helping anything and I could have written a productive and informative paragraph for the wiki rather than this one. - [[User:Darth Wombat|Darth Wombat]] 12:12, 19 April 2010 (EDT) | ::::I do not understand what is making you angry. I moved pages to clarify a hierarchy that we, as amember, had voted in. Then Ben, who reasonably thought that this was confusing, undid my moves. I will later create pages for External Affairs Subcommander and Tech Director when we, THE CLUB, have decided what they should be called. I called a vote, I am waiting for more club approval and inoput regarding roles and ranks, what more do you want me to do? And how am I abuse of the word executive? I haven't even used that word in this conversation. if you have a constructive comment that will aide us in what we're doing, please provide it. Otherwise, you are not helping anything and I could have written a productive and informative paragraph for the wiki rather than this one. - [[User:Darth Wombat|Darth Wombat]] 12:12, 19 April 2010 (EDT) | ||
| − | :::::Everybody, please calm down. There is no need for an upset here. | + | :::::Everybody, please calm down. There is no need for an upset here. <br> |
| − | + | :::::If there is to be a major revamping of the wiki, it would be nice to note what the plan is before beginning to make those changes. This is why [[:Category:Extraterrestrial|Planets]] and [[:Category:Habitat Systems]] have project (category) pages to discuss their implementation. Perhaps [[Talk:Administration]] can serve this purpose here, and if this occurs, a note should be made on the Community Portal.<br> | |
| − | :::::If there is to be a major revamping of the wiki, it would be nice to note what the plan is before beginning to make those changes. This is why [[:Category:Extraterrestrial|Planets]] and [[:Category:Habitat Systems]] have project (category) pages to discuss their implementation. Perhaps [[Talk:Administration]] can serve this purpose here, and if this occurs, a note should be made on the Community Portal. A note on governance, since we are talking about the administration here anyways: Spacesim is a hereditary meritocracy and not a democracy. Members who show willingness to participate and who take on initiative and leadership roles will be promoted to those leadership roles. Unfortunately for new-comers, this means that it can take some time to establish your reputation as a hard-worker. Top-down structures work best for medium-sized groups like Spacesim, where there are too many people in the group to really get their opinion on every decision, but there are not so many people that it would be impossible for each member to strongly influence the decision makers. In conclusion, reasoned dialogue is better than all caps. [[User:Stefanido|-- Stefanido]] 13:00, 19 April 2010 (EDT) | + | :::::A note on governance, since we are talking about the administration here anyways: Spacesim is a hereditary meritocracy and not a democracy. Members who show willingness to participate and who take on initiative and leadership roles will be promoted to those leadership roles. Unfortunately for new-comers, this means that it can take some time to establish your reputation as a hard-worker. Top-down structures work best for medium-sized groups like Spacesim, where there are too many people in the group to really get their opinion on every decision, but there are not so many people that it would be impossible for each member to strongly influence the decision makers.<br> |
| + | :::::In conclusion, reasoned dialogue is better than all caps. [[User:Stefanido|-- Stefanido]] 13:00, 19 April 2010 (EDT) | ||
Latest revision as of 13:16, 8 June 2010
Can't this be moved to be the New External Affairs Commander/Subcommander/.. GUYS, FRIGGIN DECIDE ON A STREAMLINED NAMING STRATEGY FOR THE NEW HIERARCHY BEFORE REVAMPING THE WHOLE WIKI!!!!!!! ---Wernstrum, Stargakat, Jonas 10:46, 18 April 2010 (EDT)
- Chen-tao, FRIGGIN LOOK AT WHAT HE'S DOING BEFORE BECIDING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY. BEN IS MAKING A HIERARCHY NAVBAR. - Darth Wombat 20:04, 18 April 2010 (EDT)
- Please read THE FULL RECENT CHANGES, not just stuff that pertains to what you're currently doing. If you had, you would have noticed this. ---RAEGMACHINE500Talk Page 20:14, 18 April 2010 (EDT)
- FIne then, though I have to point out that you, Samuel, did edit quite a couple of articles BEFORE Ben made that template, making it confusing for others, especially considering how you haven't informed a lot of people on this strategy of yours. And a decision like that shouldn't be kept to a meer User Talk page, especially for something as huge as a hierarchycal template for the next generation of (fyi, your starting to abuse of this word) "executives." While I'm at it, INVOLVE THE CLUB (or, NON-EXECUTIVES) ONCE IN A WHILE. Seriously, your comments on how Spacesim "isn't a direct democracy" is quite derisory. To all members. There, I'm pissed. Anyone for a verbal argument at lunch? ---Wernstrum, Stargakat, Jonas 11:13, 19 April 2010 (EDT)
- I do not understand what is making you angry. I moved pages to clarify a hierarchy that we, as amember, had voted in. Then Ben, who reasonably thought that this was confusing, undid my moves. I will later create pages for External Affairs Subcommander and Tech Director when we, THE CLUB, have decided what they should be called. I called a vote, I am waiting for more club approval and inoput regarding roles and ranks, what more do you want me to do? And how am I abuse of the word executive? I haven't even used that word in this conversation. if you have a constructive comment that will aide us in what we're doing, please provide it. Otherwise, you are not helping anything and I could have written a productive and informative paragraph for the wiki rather than this one. - Darth Wombat 12:12, 19 April 2010 (EDT)
- Everybody, please calm down. There is no need for an upset here.
- If there is to be a major revamping of the wiki, it would be nice to note what the plan is before beginning to make those changes. This is why Planets and Category:Habitat Systems have project (category) pages to discuss their implementation. Perhaps Talk:Administration can serve this purpose here, and if this occurs, a note should be made on the Community Portal.
- A note on governance, since we are talking about the administration here anyways: Spacesim is a hereditary meritocracy and not a democracy. Members who show willingness to participate and who take on initiative and leadership roles will be promoted to those leadership roles. Unfortunately for new-comers, this means that it can take some time to establish your reputation as a hard-worker. Top-down structures work best for medium-sized groups like Spacesim, where there are too many people in the group to really get their opinion on every decision, but there are not so many people that it would be impossible for each member to strongly influence the decision makers.
- In conclusion, reasoned dialogue is better than all caps. -- Stefanido 13:00, 19 April 2010 (EDT)
- Everybody, please calm down. There is no need for an upset here.
- I do not understand what is making you angry. I moved pages to clarify a hierarchy that we, as amember, had voted in. Then Ben, who reasonably thought that this was confusing, undid my moves. I will later create pages for External Affairs Subcommander and Tech Director when we, THE CLUB, have decided what they should be called. I called a vote, I am waiting for more club approval and inoput regarding roles and ranks, what more do you want me to do? And how am I abuse of the word executive? I haven't even used that word in this conversation. if you have a constructive comment that will aide us in what we're doing, please provide it. Otherwise, you are not helping anything and I could have written a productive and informative paragraph for the wiki rather than this one. - Darth Wombat 12:12, 19 April 2010 (EDT)
- FIne then, though I have to point out that you, Samuel, did edit quite a couple of articles BEFORE Ben made that template, making it confusing for others, especially considering how you haven't informed a lot of people on this strategy of yours. And a decision like that shouldn't be kept to a meer User Talk page, especially for something as huge as a hierarchycal template for the next generation of (fyi, your starting to abuse of this word) "executives." While I'm at it, INVOLVE THE CLUB (or, NON-EXECUTIVES) ONCE IN A WHILE. Seriously, your comments on how Spacesim "isn't a direct democracy" is quite derisory. To all members. There, I'm pissed. Anyone for a verbal argument at lunch? ---Wernstrum, Stargakat, Jonas 11:13, 19 April 2010 (EDT)
